Comments on: Sitting in the Fire http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/ Overcoming Addiction, Alcoholism and Depression Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:18:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: namaste clothes http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-118 namaste clothes Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:13:31 +0000 http://integralrecovery.com/?p=177#comment-118 However many holy words you read,However many you speak,What good will they do you If you do not act on upon them? However many holy words you read,However many you speak,What good will they do you If you do not act on upon them?

]]> By: Rob http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Rob Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:49:08 +0000 http://integralrecovery.com/?p=177#comment-105 Very interesting. How do you keep the feeling when you have let go of the thoughts that generate it? Or is this for those deep feelings that just stay for hours/days? Also, isn't this a kind of meditative exposure therapy? Is it the meditation or the exposure that helps with the transformation? Very interesting. How do you keep the feeling when you have let go of the thoughts that generate it? Or is this for those deep feelings that just stay for hours/days?

Also, isn’t this a kind of meditative exposure therapy? Is it the meditation or the exposure that helps with the transformation?

]]> By: john d. http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-84 john d. Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:04:13 +0000 http://integralrecovery.com/?p=177#comment-84 Well, as with most things dealing with absolute reality "everything is fine just as it is" and relative reality "we are going to hell in a hand basket" things are paradoxical. Grace most times requires a lot of work. And the realization of the "great perfection of things" can take life times of striving and practice. And with the realization of this great perfection there again paradoxically arises compassion and we work like the devil for the liberation of all beings. Well, as with most things dealing with absolute reality “everything is fine just as it is” and relative reality “we are going to hell in a hand basket” things are paradoxical. Grace most times requires a lot of work. And the realization of the “great perfection of things” can take life times of striving and practice. And with the realization of this great perfection there again paradoxically arises compassion and we work like the devil for the liberation of all beings.

]]> By: Kitty http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Kitty Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:24:28 +0000 http://integralrecovery.com/?p=177#comment-83 I think the goal of "all true spiritual practice" is to have no goal, to realize that how we are NOW is just fine- a perfect, complete manifestation of Spirit. Trying to achieve something, anything, including alleviation of suffering, is antithetical to our True Nature because there is nothing to get, nothing to achieve, nothing to alleviate. I realize you are trying to help addicts feel better, therefore enabling them to move past their habit, and that's a worthwhile use of meditation. But certainly not "true spiritual practice." You oughtn't forget that like everything else (including addiction), meditation is a stopgap, a tool, and just as necessary to not cling to in the name of enlightenment. We all want to feel better, but only when we realize it doesn't matter is it actually possible to do so. I think the goal of “all true spiritual practice” is to have no goal, to realize that how we are NOW is just fine- a perfect, complete manifestation of Spirit. Trying to achieve something, anything, including alleviation of suffering, is antithetical to our True Nature because there is nothing to get, nothing to achieve, nothing to alleviate.

I realize you are trying to help addicts feel better, therefore enabling them to move past their habit, and that’s a worthwhile use of meditation. But certainly not “true spiritual practice.” You oughtn’t forget that like everything else (including addiction), meditation is a stopgap, a tool, and just as necessary to not cling to in the name of enlightenment.

We all want to feel better, but only when we realize it doesn’t matter is it actually possible to do so.

]]> By: Mikee Z http://integralrecovery.com/2009/03/sitting-in-the-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Mikee Z Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:28:54 +0000 http://integralrecovery.com/?p=177#comment-75 This is the best of all techniques, actually. To be with pain, sadness, anxiety. To become "it" until "it" resolves into an I. Simply accepting the other side, being the other side - this the place from which our unique self arises, from being both sides. I think that this method- if done with real, disciplined intensity- is the fastest, easiest way to become I-I. But we need a courage and strength to do this. This techinque works really well and I encourage everyone to give it a try. Be well Michael This is the best of all techniques, actually. To be with pain, sadness, anxiety. To become “it” until “it” resolves into an I. Simply accepting the other side, being the other side – this the place from which our unique self arises, from being both sides. I think that this method- if done with real, disciplined intensity- is the fastest, easiest way to become I-I. But we need a courage and strength to do this. This techinque works really well and I encourage everyone to give it a try.

Be well

Michael

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