Episode 005: Waking Up – Leaning into the Great Mystery

The Journey of Integral Recovery Podcast
Episode 005: Waking Up – Leaning into the Great Mystery

Why you should listen:
The daily practice of meditation offers us a profound tool for inner transformation, and it’s central to the Integral Recovery program. But what makes meditation so powerful, and how does the practice affect us as we go about the business of our daily lives, including the work of cleaning up, growing up, and showing up?

In this episode of the Journey of Integral Recovery Podcast, hosts John Dupuy, Dr. Bob Weathers, and Doug Prater dive deep into the world of waking up. The search for truth, the experience of the divine, and the integration of those insights, experienced in a very personal way, are examined through the lens of an evolving Integral perspective that invites you deep into the heart of wisdom, compassion, and transcendence.

In this episode:
[1:47] Wisdom on Suffering from Thich Nhat Hanh
[4:30] One of meditation’s greatest gifts: the witnessing consciousness
[6:53] Bringing more to recovery through meditation, and the technology to assist us
[8:32] What do you realize in deep meditative states?
[10:30] How to bring the insights of meditation back into the world to assist recovery
[16:42] Meditation and Contemplation in the Christian tradition, how that understanding influenced AA, and how waking up integrally, through first, second, and third person perspectives, enriches life and enhances recovery
[22:54] Using spiritual practice to integrate and stabilize insight with being in the world
[24:50] Meditation in the big book, and our constantly evolving understanding of spiritual experience
[26:12] The meditation “super-ego”, expectations, and misconceptions
[27:26] Integrating the heart and the mind by tuning into heart intelligence
[29:18] Does meditation really work? Is it effective for creating change?
[32:10] Transmission of “enlightenedness” and holding suffering in a mindful way
[35:02] Leaning into the great mystery through consistent practice

Episode Resources:
Heartmath Institute


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3/24/2017, 39:11, 26.9mb (Audio)


  1. Angela on March 25, 2017 at 2:26 am

    Thanks again for a great podcast.

    Yes, I’m very interested in what you were saying about hanging out with people who are doing Integral Recovery. When will you be instigating something on line or a way for us to connect and support each other?

    I like AA and we have a Buddhist oriented addiction recovery group here and I’m very grateful for them. But I am enthusiastic for an Integral Recovery group.

    • Doug Prater on March 27, 2017 at 12:50 am

      Hi, Angela. Thank you for your support. I’m happy to hear that you’re finding value in the podcast. And you’re right — connecting with the community is an important piece of the puzzle. Supporting one another in recovery works wonders to repair and strengthen our lower-left quadrant, and the impact is profound. Breaking the isolation of addiction by building connections and supporting others made all the difference in my own recovery.

      We’re planning to build the Integral Recovery community in a few different ways, and I’d love for you to join us in all of them. Shortly after the release of episode 005, we added the page integralrecoveryinstitute.com/community which will contain details on the various ways to connect with other Integral Recovery community members.

      Right now, the best place to join us is in our (brand new) private Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/378203129226350/

      We’re also currently setting up a space to hold weekly live meetings. This is a project we’re all quite excited about, and I think you’ll love the platform. I can’t say any more than that just yet, but if you’re on our mailing list we’ll make the announcement within the next few weeks.

      Thank you again for your support. We look forward to seeing more of you in the community.

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